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Security Visionaries is back for 2025, and host Emily Wearmouth is kicking things off with a conversation about the intersection between cyber and physical security when it comes to major events with Ben Morris, Group Head of Cyber Security for World Rugby. In their conversation, Ben and Emily discuss the unique challenges of safeguarding international sports events, where cybersecurity and physical security intersect. From securing stadiums worldwide to collaborating with governments and navigating evolving threat landscapes, Ben offers fascinating insights into the complexities of modern sports security. Additionally, they also discuss how popular culture portrays security and the future of cybersecurity in global sports.

So one of the things that I’m really passionate about is making sure we uplift all of Stadia and all of venues to particular set of standards and using the UK with it’s amplification and it’s connections to go, “Okay, we like these standards from the private sector, from sport, and why don’t we put that into a blueprint.”

—Ben Morris, Group Head of Cyber Security for World Rugby
Ben Morris, Group Head of Cyber Security for World Rugby

 

Timestamps

*00:01 - Introduction*14:56: The shift from temporary setups to sustainable, repeatable security frameworks
*0:45: The complexities of securing diverse physical venues for global events*18:29: Fresh builds vs. legacy infrastructure: Security preferences and challenges
*3:20: Balancing responsibility across dynamic venues*21:12: Staying ahead of the evolving threat landscape through collaboration
*5:47: World Rugby’s role as a standards body for cybersecurity and physical security*24:43: Working with law enforcement and government entities during major events
*8:11: Collaboration with physical security teams and integration of cyber and physical efforts*27:01: Regional differences in hosting global sports events and partnering with local stakeholders
*12:11: What popular culture gets right and wrong about security*29:32: Closing thoughts on the universal language of cybersecurity in sports

 

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Ben Morris
Group Head of Cyber Security for World Rugby

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Ben Morris, Group Head of Cyber Security for World Rugby

As the Group Head of Cyber Security at World Rugby, Ben leads the direction in protecting one of the world’s most prestigious sports. He oversees cybersecurity across the international federation, global services, and major events like the Rugby World Cup, with expertise spanning the full spectrum of cybersecurity, including safeguarding complex broadcast networks, supporting sponsorship requirements, to the intricacies of physical venue planning.

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Emily Wearmouth
Director of International Communications and Content at Netskope

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Emily Wearmouth

Emily Wearmouth is a technology communicator who helps engineers, specialists and tech organisations to communicate more effectively. At Netskope, Emily runs the company’s international communications and content programmes, working with teams across EMEA, LATAM, and APJ. She spends her days unearthing stories and telling them in a way that helps a wide range of audiences to better understand technology options and benefits.

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Ben Morris, Group Head of Cyber Security for World Rugby

As the Group Head of Cyber Security at World Rugby, Ben leads the direction in protecting one of the world’s most prestigious sports. He oversees cybersecurity across the international federation, global services, and major events like the Rugby World Cup, with expertise spanning the full spectrum of cybersecurity, including safeguarding complex broadcast networks, supporting sponsorship requirements, to the intricacies of physical venue planning.

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Emily Wearmouth

Emily Wearmouth is a technology communicator who helps engineers, specialists and tech organisations to communicate more effectively. At Netskope, Emily runs the company’s international communications and content programmes, working with teams across EMEA, LATAM, and APJ. She spends her days unearthing stories and telling them in a way that helps a wide range of audiences to better understand technology options and benefits.

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Episode transcript

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0:00:01.6 Emily Wearmouth: Hello and welcome to another edition of the Security Visionaries podcast. Today's episode is an absolute caulker for anyone who's a sports fan or I suppose anyone who likes any sort of physical live event. My guest today is Ben Morris. He is the Group Head of Cybersecurity for World Rugby. And today he's joining me to chat about the intersection of cyber and physical security. So welcome to the podcast, Ben.

0:00:25.5 Ben Morris: Thank you very much for having me and I'm excited to delve into the world, not just of cybersecurity, which obviously I'm gonna be biased, but naturally sport as well and how they interchange with the world that we find ourselves in today. So yeah, very excited to dig into it today.

0:00:38.7 Emily Wearmouth: Excellent. Now if you don't mind, there is so much that I want to ask you about and I know we're on the clock, so can I just dive straight in?

0:00:45.6 Ben Morris: Absolutely, yeah. Keen to.

0:00:47.3 Emily Wearmouth: Brilliant. Alright. So my first question, when we talk about modern security challenges, we very often zoom straight into the lack of consistent physical environment and see it as a problem. We talk a lot about the challenges of remote work, for instance, and I suppose we are doing that. We are harking back to a more straightforward time where physical location was a controlled environment. But I suspect you are gonna tell me that physical environments can add complexity and it doesn't necessarily make life easier. So could you give a quick overview of some of the complexities that are involved when the location itself is a dominant character in your security plans?

0:01:21.7 Ben Morris: Yeah, with the responsibility of World Rugby being a major event organizer, there's so much of a heavy reliance on physical venue and the presence. And unless you have a way of moving a stadium from country to country, that isn't gonna be the case. So the challenge that we face is we have venues we have to secure, we have devices always on the move. We've got local operating companies all across the world. It is a diverse challenge. So how do you provide a secure environment for these physical venues, the coffee shop enthusiasts, all that kind of stuff. And I don't think sport's unique in that challenge, but I think sport has really been forced to think differently around security.

0:02:06.5 Ben Morris: So nowadays when we're talking about organising a major event, we now have to consider all those elements. So it's significantly evolved. I am spending more of my time on the physical security element of the venue more so than anything else nowadays. And with that, the complexities of how do we provide that zero kind of performance hit really robust security and such. So we've had to really evolve our ecosystem and our architecture around Zero Trust cloud first, providing richness when it comes to DLP, but all over the world. So yeah, not an easy topic to digest, but it is significantly involved the complexity of managing major events nowadays.

0:02:51.1 Emily Wearmouth: So I guess for listeners that are less familiar with World Rugby, it's probably worth pointing out, you are not the security lead at Stan