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Amid the endless hype, what is the one thing about AI that you wish was being discussed more? In this episode, host Emily Wearmouth sits down with Neil Thacker, EMEA CISO, Yihua Liao, Head of Netskope AI Labs, and Suzanne Oliver, Director of IP Strategy at Scintilla, to discuss the topics in the realm of AI that they each wish people were discussing more.

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I think this era is certainly crying out for a little bit more transparency about what is and what isn’t AI and what is ML. They’re often used interchangeably, and they are actually very different. I think there’s a lot of this hype because there’s a lack of understanding of what these systems can and can’t do.

—Suzanne Oliver, Director of IP Strategy at Scintilla
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*(0:01): Introductions*(14:54): What sorts of questions are you asking technical AI leads as a security lead?
*(1:28): What one thing about AI would you really like to see being discussed more?*(20:24): How do you broach conversations around transparency and ownership around AI?
*(3:48): Who should be owning these definitions?*(27:02): Who should be owning the definitions and the standards of AI?
*(5:35): Any examples where you've seen AI that people wouldn't perhaps know to look for?*(29:20): How much responsibility do you think should be shouldered by the developers themselves?
*(8:30): What is your thought around the sort of persistent relabeling of everything as ChatGPT?*(30:48): Closing thoughts

 

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Neil Thacker
CISO, EMEA at Netskope

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Neil Thacker

Neil Thacker is a veteran information security professional and a data protection and privacy expert well-versed in the European Union General Data Protection Regulation (EU GDPR).

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Suzanne Oliver
Director of IP Strategy at Scintilla

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Suzanne Oliver

Suzanne is a dual qualified UK and European Patent Attorney and has recently joined the Scintilla team as Director, IP Strategy. Prior to her career in Intellectual Property, she spent a number of years in engineering. Suzanne worked in-house in a tech and robotics start-up, GroundWOW, leading their IP strategy, as well as IP policy development. Previously, she was responsible for Operations, Legal, and IP at SeeChange Technologies, a wholly owned subsidiary and subsequent spin out of ARM Ltd. Prior to her work with SeeChange Technologies, Suzanne managed ARM’s global patent and trademark prosecution teams supporting a diverse portfolio of IP strategy, policy and development matters for ARM.

In addition to her impressive professional credentials, she holds several NED and Board positions, most recently as the President of the UK IP Federation. This saw her advise the UK government in the field of innovation and IP.

Suzanne has championed women in STEM, inclusion and diversity throughout her career, being named as an IAM ‘World Leading IP Strategist’ for 2017, and as a Managing IP ‘Corporate IP Star’ in 2018 & 2019. She was a national award winner for her Corporate Diversity and Inclusion Leadership work in 2018.

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Yihua Liao
Head of Netskope AI Labs at Netskope

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Yihua Liao

Dr. Yihua Liao is the Head of AI Labs at Netskope. His team Develops cutting-edge AI/ML technology to tackle many challenging problems in cloud security, including data loss prevention, malware and threat protection, and user/entity behavior analytics. Previously, he led data science teams at Uber and Facebook.

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Emily Wearmouth
Director of International Communications and Content at Netskope

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Emily Wearmouth

Emily Wearmouth runs Netskope’s communications across EMEA, LATAM, and APAC. Working across public relations, social media, customer references and content creation, Emily keeps busy unearthing stories and telling them in a way that helps customers and prospects understand what Netskope can do for them.

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Neil Thacker

Neil Thacker is a veteran information security professional and a data protection and privacy expert well-versed in the European Union General Data Protection Regulation (EU GDPR).

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Suzanne Oliver

Suzanne is a dual qualified UK and European Patent Attorney and has recently joined the Scintilla team as Director, IP Strategy. Prior to her career in Intellectual Property, she spent a number of years in engineering. Suzanne worked in-house in a tech and robotics start-up, GroundWOW, leading their IP strategy, as well as IP policy development. Previously, she was responsible for Operations, Legal, and IP at SeeChange Technologies, a wholly owned subsidiary and subsequent spin out of ARM Ltd. Prior to her work with SeeChange Technologies, Suzanne managed ARM’s global patent and trademark prosecution teams supporting a diverse portfolio of IP strategy, policy and development matters for ARM.

In addition to her impressive professional credentials, she holds several NED and Board positions, most recently as the President of the UK IP Federation. This saw her advise the UK government in the field of innovation and IP.

Suzanne has championed women in STEM, inclusion and diversity throughout her career, being named as an IAM ‘World Leading IP Strategist’ for 2017, and as a Managing IP ‘Corporate IP Star’ in 2018 & 2019. She was a national award winner for her Corporate Diversity and Inclusion Leadership work in 2018.

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Yihua Liao

Dr. Yihua Liao is the Head of AI Labs at Netskope. His team Develops cutting-edge AI/ML technology to tackle many challenging problems in cloud security, including data loss prevention, malware and threat protection, and user/entity behavior analytics. Previously, he led data science teams at Uber and Facebook.

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Emily Wearmouth